tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post5666163302761226694..comments2024-03-28T21:44:20.803-07:00Comments on THE DAILY PEN: ELIGIBILITY AND JUSTICE ARE BLIND REGARDING OBAMA…AND RUBIOPenbrook Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10526440225887842097noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-72061353083826964962012-07-17T03:14:29.045-07:002012-07-17T03:14:29.045-07:00Graet detail news.I like its so much.Islam in pana...Graet detail news.I like its so much.<a href="http://www.muslimfoto.com/category/islam-in-panama/" rel="nofollow">Islam in panama</a><br /><br /><br />Thank<br /><br /><br />SaniaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07966024106362656883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-92177824572521294332012-06-04T11:02:39.629-07:002012-06-04T11:02:39.629-07:00We have a clearly legal candidate who is also an h...We have a clearly legal candidate who is also an honest, incorruptable man- Dr. Ron Paul and he is winning delegates right and left, so we will only have to deal with Obama being the illegal and no one else when Dr. Paul faces off against the imposter Barry Santoro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-25287460337530847072012-04-26T06:10:47.721-07:002012-04-26T06:10:47.721-07:00The fact of the matter is still so simple it's...The fact of the matter is still so simple it's stupid. Should the President have an authentic signed, sealed and stamped verifiable copy of his original Hawaiian birth certificate, his lawyer in this case would simply produce it at this, or any other hearing and it would be over. There would be NO FURTHER DISCUSSION on the matter. It would be a much simpler resolution to the matter than the alternative, which is to argue that the document is irrelevant.<br /><br />He cannot prove he was born in Hawaii. There is no birth certificate on record in either the hospital, nor the offices of the Hawaiian government. If there were, we would ALL have seen them and not some bogus digital image any high school senior can prove a fake.Maximus Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913977232644941097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-5349391985885755532012-04-26T06:04:55.695-07:002012-04-26T06:04:55.695-07:00I see skacinom not only cannot think, they also ca...I see skacinom not only cannot think, they also cannot read and they continue to post the exact same thing over and over and over...Maximus Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913977232644941097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-15695671879006914992012-04-26T06:01:24.809-07:002012-04-26T06:01:24.809-07:00You are absolutely correct, and I have replies fro...You are absolutely correct, and I have replies from Senators stating the same with regard to this issue. Currently, as interpreted by our Legislative Branch, the ONLY requirement that matters in Obama and Rubio's case is that they were born on U.S. soil. That's it. If their parents were Micky and Minnie Mouse it would make no difference.<br /><br />Until the SCOTUS should take this up and clarify, there is nothing to see here.Maximus Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913977232644941097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-7539125476725128472012-04-25T08:55:31.999-07:002012-04-25T08:55:31.999-07:00Your problem is that YOU don't have the intell...Your problem is that YOU don't have the intelligence to interpret NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. The U.S. Supreme Court DID interpret the term in 1875 in the Supreme Court Case Minor v. Happersett. This is THEIR interpretation of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN (Not just some random poster saying, "not 'born to U.S. citizens' you goof!" <br /><br />Once again this is the interpretation of the U.S Supreme Court in 1875: "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were its CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." <br /><br />According to this SUPREME COURT interpretation a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is someone born in the U.S. to TWO CITIZENS! If you have a problem with this then you need have it out with the Supreme Court. They have already decided this argument a long time ago!MexicoMissionary07https://www.blogger.com/profile/06920577888565026002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-60274125412984471182012-04-23T10:13:19.720-07:002012-04-23T10:13:19.720-07:00Being on a US military base abroad while serving ...Being on a US military base abroad while serving under US official orders is most certainly "US territory". A child born to 2 US citizen parents stationed there on orders is as "geographically correct" as any child born in the 50 States. But... the child must not be given to foreigners to adopt, or elect to become a citizen of a different country before being elected to a position in the POTUS succession. <br /><br />BHO was wrong on 2 of the 3 counts: 1. one parent was not a Citizen of the USA at the time of his birth (BO, Sr was Kenyan national legally present on a student visa), and 2. BHO was adopted and assumed required Indonesian citizenship. <br />He was legally a Senator from the State of IL, and they deserve him. <br /><br />OT: Mrs. BHO IS a US "naturally born US person" who does seem to have political aspirations, like Mrs. Clinton does. She is qualified, and old enough to hold the office. God help us. <br /><br />Cheers.pdxr13https://www.blogger.com/profile/04663894695994248670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-4196376227362870872012-04-22T23:34:18.216-07:002012-04-22T23:34:18.216-07:00Oh and for the record, I'd love to see Rubio r...Oh and for the record, I'd love to see Rubio run with Romney .. the Obama camp and all his 'bots' could not say a WORD about the two-parent citizenship eligibility without also including Obama himself in the mix. It would be 'poetic justice' seeing Romney and Rubio in the WH. Rubio carries great weight with FL and as a Hispanic.Informed and Vigilanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950137887066257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-22120740106265733422012-04-22T23:27:59.960-07:002012-04-22T23:27:59.960-07:00It's true that Congress has no interpretive po...It's true that Congress has no interpretive power, only the power to pass laws based on already established SCOTUS precedents? (Correct me if I'm wrong here.) Perhaps that's what they were doing, indirectly evoking Minor v Happersett (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html), which clearly set (at least a judicial) precedent on what 'natural born citizen' meant. Perhaps the few folks that framed SR511 aren't as stupid as you think they are.<br /><br />For reference, Minor v. Happersett states:<br /><br />“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168. (Source: Cornell UniversityCornell Law School, Legal Information Institute, http://goo.gl/uFlfG)Informed and Vigilanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950137887066257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-60349317161229330852012-04-22T18:01:24.545-07:002012-04-22T18:01:24.545-07:00The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not &q...The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not "born to U.S. citizens" you goof! That's the most retarded interpretation I have heard! The whole 2 US parents thing is only relevent when you were born ABROAD on a US military base. Get a freakin clue!skacinomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240769626617454644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-89250656099229681662012-04-22T17:55:32.873-07:002012-04-22T17:55:32.873-07:00The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not &q...The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not "born to U.S. citizens" you goof! That's the most retarded interpretation I have heard! The whole 2 US parents thing goes to whether you were born ABROAD on a US military base. Get a freakin clue!<br />It scares me that THESE are the people in the voting booth determining our fate!skacinomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240769626617454644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-82107787753866280242012-04-22T17:51:49.976-07:002012-04-22T17:51:49.976-07:00The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not &q...The Constitution says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Not "born to U.S. citizens" you goofs! No amendment has to be passed. That's the most retarded interpretation I have heard! The whole 2 US parents thing goes to whether you were born ABROAD on a US military base. Get a freakin clue!skacinomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240769626617454644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-52460115957397317292012-04-21T21:04:38.967-07:002012-04-21T21:04:38.967-07:00Mike,
According to those present in the court ro...Mike, <br /><br />According to those present in the court room and Ms. Hill's own arguments, her statement agreeing that the plaintiffs that the image of the Obama's BC is not authentic and that they "are great arguments" impies nothing less than she understands the evidence proving it was forged. This implications also explains why attorneys representing Obama are desperately seeking to prevent testimony about the BC's authenticity and from it actually being entered into the record as evidence.<br /><br />Please listen carefully to the hearing and you will hear Ms. Hill concede this in her reply. <br /><br />Thank you for checking in. <br /><br />DCPenbrook Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10526440225887842097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-68290078660370833062012-04-21T15:25:39.211-07:002012-04-21T15:25:39.211-07:00uuuh, excuse me, that obama lawyer in the NJ heari...uuuh, excuse me, that obama lawyer in the NJ hearing DID NOT state or imply that the BS obama released was fraudulent or not. her point relating to it was that the BS did not apply to the case they were arguing about in court, which was whether obama is eligible to get onto the NJ primary ballot. anyone here, please post the transcript or the part of it, or some proof positive, that obama's lawyer states that the BS obama released is "fraudulent", in so many words.<br />someone on the internet SAYING that the obama lawyer said the BS was fraudulent is not proof of anything! wake upMike Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16739661975905656839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-2725220836561228122012-04-21T12:43:44.583-07:002012-04-21T12:43:44.583-07:00Here is something none of has recognized but which...Here is something none of has recognized but which was pointed out to me 3 years ago by an associate professor at Notre Dame (a life-long registered Democrat). According to the Professor, if BHO is unqualified for the office he holds and he and the people who nominated him for/helped him to win the office knew it, then he and all who assisted him have effected nothing less than a coup d'etat! That's right, a coup d'etat. You know, those things which happen elsewhere but can't possibly happen HERE because WE have a constitution. Yup! Can't happen here. BUT IT DID!!!<br /><br />Please also note that people who successfully effect coups d'etat don't, as a rule, give up their ill gotten power voluntarily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-9162306908963517442012-04-20T20:09:32.805-07:002012-04-20T20:09:32.805-07:00ummmm... Are you on crack? His father was NOT a ci...ummmm... Are you on crack? His father was NOT a citizen of Mexico. Romney was born to American parents living in the Mormon colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to flee back to the United States when he was a child. This in NO WAY makes George W. Romney, former governor of Michigan a "citizen of Mexico", mostly because Mexico wasn't even an independent nation at the time. Romney was a candidate for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in 1968. While initially a front-runner, he proved an ineffective campaigner, and fell behind Richard Nixon in polls. Mitt Romney's grandparents, Gaskell Romney (1871–1955) and Anna Amelia Pratt (1876–1926), were American citizens and natives of Utah. While his FATHER may have been ineligible to run for president (not being born on US soil), He's been dead for 17 years. Mitt was born in the US to 2 US citizens.<br /><br />MORON.Vegetasgrrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920805949438379568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-43213280359307010152012-04-20T19:54:07.921-07:002012-04-20T19:54:07.921-07:00Why has this not hit the major news media? I have...Why has this not hit the major news media? I have searched in vain for it, even on FOX and have come up with nothing.Marshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832664623497949271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-91656038367070261212012-04-20T19:29:58.773-07:002012-04-20T19:29:58.773-07:00I don't care which party the President is a me...I don't care which party the President is a member of, if s/he is there illegally and under false pretenses, s/he should be removed. Period.pinkcheekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537774388689196070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-69721798405995559252012-04-20T19:29:53.401-07:002012-04-20T19:29:53.401-07:00You hit the nail on the head. I have been bothered...You hit the nail on the head. I have been bothered by this for a long time and each and everytime it is mentioned in the media. Thanks for being the trigger that caused me to finally write to Senator Rubio. Here is my letter to him via his gov.web.email today and in tomorrow's snail mail.<br /><br />April 20, 2012<br />FL Senator Marco Rubio <br />317 Hart Senate Office Building<br />Washington, D.C. 20510<br />Phone: 202-224-3041<br /><br /><br />Dear Senator Rubio,<br /><br />Something has been bothering me for awhile and when I heard you flub the answer to the VP question I decided to write you. No, I am not one of your constituents. I am unfortunately cursed with the representation of Senators Boxer and Feinstein and Representative Waxman. As with any elected official it is anticipated that they would represent all of us, however I have found very deaf ears.<br /><br />Are you aware of the objective of the MSM as aligned with the DNC and possibly the GOP to use you to destroy this great country, I have heard you say, you love? Or is it on purpose that you allow them to speculate on your candidacy for VP? Jeb Bush, today, offered you up as Mitt Romney’s running mate. Many of us love our country as you do but are without voice to stop the progressives from stealing one of the greatest gifts God gave us beyond his son Jesus Christ. Also it seems the Tea Party phenomenon has not been as successful as we had hoped.<br /><br />You may ask, how are you being used? From the point of view of many, there is an ineligible office holder in the White House. Constitutionally it can be confirmed, it takes two citizen parents when one is born to be a “natural born citizen” the main qualification. It is my understanding that your parents were not American citizens when you were born. All the obfuscation and ignoring this will not change the fact that either you or Obama is not qualified for the office of POTUS. Your name is constantly brought up as the VP candidate for whoever is chosen for the GOP. You seem, to many, to be extremely articulate and well educated which makes you really likable to the masses. What I find disturbing is that you do not address the issue of eligibility head on. The more your name is brought up or thrown into the ring the less anyone pays attention to what the Constitution says, just like 2008. A simple statement from you of “I’m not qualified under Article II, Section I, Clause V to be President or Vice President” would change the discourse and put an end to the candidacy of Barak Obama as he has yet to present any evidence that isn’t forged of his citizenship.<br /><br />You will be used to destroy this country if you succumb to the pressure or the attraction of the fame & fortune of the office of Vice President by accepting the nomination. Twenty percent of the conservative voting bloc, in my estimation, will abstain from voting for another unqualified candidate. Do you think a Romney/Rubio ticket can win without that 20% of the vote? That 20% Sir will definitely insure the re-election of the current office holder, an unacceptable outcome for the 2012 election. <br /><br />You Sir will have been used because you and others like you refuse to address the eligibility issue against the best interests of America. My hope for you and our country is that you stay in the Senate and become a force for change that takes that institution back to the stature it once had, one that truly honors the Constitution as written. We need people like you to bring the freedoms we have lost in my lifetime back for future generations to enjoy.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br /><br /><br />Lloyd Carter<br />Westlake Village, CA<br />(818) 206-8232phrowthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08712456491734526583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-29198773126029195462012-04-20T12:05:24.324-07:002012-04-20T12:05:24.324-07:00The Constitution spells out clearly eligibility re...The Constitution spells out clearly eligibility requirements, should those requisites not be met in any capacity, the nominee should be disqualified, END OF STORY!! Therefore, for congress to simply assume they had the power to amend the Constitution with SR 511, was a complete sham and was abusive of the powers as set forth within the Consitution.<br /><br />Our Government was created to protect the rights of the individual, not to promulgate laws to restrain or otherwise control its citizens. For instance, Government wishes to and MANDATES contract with the people by the requirement and issuance of licenses to all those wishing to "drive" when reality of if is that as long as you[the people} are NOT engaging in commerce, ie beng paid, you have the RIGHT to TRAVEL FREELY within the the US unrestrained. The fact that licensure is required, is UNCONSTITUTIONAL in that you UNWILLINGLY gave up your right to travel freely by being force to apply for and receive licensure and registrations. "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by AUTOMOBILE, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." [emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579. <br /><br />"Heretofore the court has held, and we think correctly, that while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place of business for private gain." Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82; Willis vs. Buck, 263 P.l 982. <br /><br />"Personal liberty -- or the right to enjoyment of life and liberty -- is one of the fundamental or natural rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from nor dependent on the U.S. Constitution... It is one of the most sacred and valuable rights [remember the words of Justice Tolman, supra.] as sacred as the right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable." 16 C.J.S. Const. Law, Sect.202, p.987. <br /><br />As you can see, courts have upheld the notion that every citizen has the right to travel and licensure is not required so long as they are not conducting business for personal gain. This also demonstrates how the Government has completely overstepped its powers as granted within the Constitution.Jonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752421223022667715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-31780001016864582172012-04-20T11:08:04.572-07:002012-04-20T11:08:04.572-07:00George Romney's parents were U.S. citizens. He...George Romney's parents were U.S. citizens. He did not need to be naturalized because of this. Being born to two U.S. citizens although abroad, gave him U.S. citizenship.MJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071399724712754689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-72513386080686711352012-04-20T10:32:36.610-07:002012-04-20T10:32:36.610-07:00Obama INELIGIBLE!!
A crushing situation is emergi...Obama INELIGIBLE!!<br />A crushing situation is emerging for, not only Barack Obama, but also for the American people <br />as a landmark statement has been made by the Obama administration that is going to turn the <br />entire 2012 Presidential race and potentially much more on its head. <br />Lawyers representing the current sitting President of the United States of America have been <br />forced, under penalty of perjury, to admit that the long-form birth certificate presented by the <br />White House in April of 2011 is a total forgery. (Also a FELONY, as he claimed it as his <br />Birth Certificate... I had a copy of his Kenyan TRUE Birth Certificate!!))<br /><br />http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-officially-ineligibleBarnabushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17504518316336124773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-65919946447019896672012-04-20T04:47:51.062-07:002012-04-20T04:47:51.062-07:00Dawn, the reason why it is so difficult is that th...Dawn, the reason why it is so difficult is that the establishment power-brokers only care about retaining power, and don't give a rat's @$$ about honor, integrity or the Constitution. I disagree with the author that we need to amend the Constitution so Rubio, wonderful as he is, can run for the office. This Country has many wonderful, patriotic men and women that are currently eligible, and would run for high office if the stink would be cleared out first. I have many friends that try to talk me into running regularly, but I would not put my family through a compaign for high office. The Constitution is fine, and a few amendments should be repealed to restore the founders' vision rather than continue to move further away.pJarheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08951416241464137609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-35598018701808887322012-04-20T04:43:43.374-07:002012-04-20T04:43:43.374-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.pJarheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08951416241464137609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-21719851343211793772012-04-19T15:41:14.620-07:002012-04-19T15:41:14.620-07:00I cannot believe that 4 years later people have no...I cannot believe that 4 years later people have not educated themselves. CAdamP, If your claim is true, then ANY anchor baby could be POTUS? I think not. A Islamic terrorist and one of his wives could come here for their kid's birth, take the kid back to Muslimland, then 14 years prior to an election this "US Citizen" could move here, reside for 14 years, and run for POTUS? Nope, I think not. Wasn't this the issue with Arnold? And as far as the "newspaper birth announcements" - YOU do better. There are no such announcements. They only live in cyberspace. Do your homework. Yes Rubio was born in Fla & BO was born who knows where, but neither of them had two citizen parents at the time of their birth.<br />And Lori, yes, you have a point - I will leave it at - we are not SURE about Romney? Unless he can show me that his father was a US Citizen at the time he (Mitt) was born, Romney has a problem too.<br />Why is this so difficult? Meaning why is it so difficult to get a clearly legal candidate??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com