tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post9110934916066531565..comments2024-03-28T23:54:49.006-07:00Comments on THE DAILY PEN: FINAL REPORT: Obama's Birth Announcements Fail To Indicate "Natural Born" StatusPenbrook Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10526440225887842097noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-23727904189834718732020-07-14T16:59:20.355-07:002020-07-14T16:59:20.355-07:00I cannot thank Mr Benjamin service enough and lett...I cannot thank Mr Benjamin service enough and letting people know how grateful I am for all the assistance that you and your team staff have provided and I look forward to recommending friends and family should they need financial advice or assistance @ 1,9% Rate for Business Loan .Via Contact : . Lfdsloans@outlook.com. WhatsApp...+ 19893943740. Keep up the great work.<br />Thanks, Busarakham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-15837454136182118202013-02-06T10:34:56.433-08:002013-02-06T10:34:56.433-08:00Entirely irrelevant. This information is containe...Entirely irrelevant. This information is contained at several locations across the web. Just because some jock springs up on a blog demanding documented proof does not invalidate squat. It just means that some mental midget likes to play games.jshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03556528525557443583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-21680107027190194992012-12-21T16:32:21.235-08:002012-12-21T16:32:21.235-08:00Ann actually is not legally or morally obligated t...Ann actually is not legally or morally obligated to provide YOU, an obvious duped ignoramus, ANYTHING.<br />The FACT of his birth is indisputable, incontrovertible, and undeniable, yet you flakes all continue rabidly drooling over the alternative universe. Today, Dec 21, 2012, is the End of Time for the NRA, as the lunatic LaPierre thinks while they have been fronting and laundering money for right-wing candidates for years, all of a sudden the rest of America would rather arm teachers, staff every school with weapons, rather than accept the obvious, which is it is easier, cheaper, and more effective to keep guns, and especially assault weapons (Q: why do you think they call them ASSAULT Weapons?) out of the hands of troubled individuals. Read the Brady gun control website for actual stats and realize among other things that Australia had the spine to revoke most of the most ridiculous gun-worshipping rights, resulting in a dramatic end to this sort of massacre, while NOT creating a Gulag state.<br /> LaPierre is a toadie of the gun manufacturers and is an insult to the history of hunting prior to 1965.Die Fledermaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00896421584733654889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-14855275467061308862012-07-25T01:37:18.306-07:002012-07-25T01:37:18.306-07:00new discovery in british archives .. Kenya sent to...new discovery in british archives .. Kenya sent to british archives that a son was born to Barack obama Sr. in Kenya in 1961snowyriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591205694328415705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-69825778458398432952012-07-25T01:30:35.776-07:002012-07-25T01:30:35.776-07:00Well said.. someone has read their constitution an...Well said.. someone has read their constitution and Vattel's law of nations.. doesnt matter one bit where he was born.. what matters is whether he had two US citizen parents.. Obama by his own admission did not!! He has usurped the office of president.. should be tried and jailed!!snowyriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591205694328415705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-76327256487273428792012-03-31T20:28:09.638-07:002012-03-31T20:28:09.638-07:00I refer you to the English pravda and an article w...I refer you to the English pravda and an article well written by Dianna Cotter ( http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/# )<br /><br /><br />THIS IS JUST AN EXCERPT FROM THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN SECTION OF THAT ARTICLE:<br /><br />The second reason for Obama's concern lies in the Supreme Court of the United States case Minor V. Happersett (88 U.S. 162) 1875 which defines Natural Born Citizen:<br /><br />"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.<br /><br />This U.S. Supreme Court case decided that Virginia Minor, the plaintiff, could not use the 14th Amendment to claim citizenship and the right to vote because she was a Natural Born Citizen, and therefor unable to lay claim to the statutory citizenship the 14th Amendment gave to former slaves, which included their right to vote. This is the only U.S. Supreme Court case in the history of the United States to clearly define what a Natural Born Citizen is. It has been cited in dozens of cases since.<br /><br />This is an issue which cannot be brushed aside by Mr. Obama. His father, Barack Obama Sr. was a student from the British Commonwealth of Kenya, a British Citizen who never sought to become a US Citizen, and indeed was eventually forced to leave the country. Mr. Obama has only one parent who was an American Citizen. Obama clearly does not meet the requirements of Natural Born Citizen as defined by the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett.<br /><br />The Founding Fathers, the men who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, discussed these very reasons why no person of divided loyalties, divided nationalities, should ever have command of America's armed forces. Dozens of letters and many debates in the constitutional conventions recorded these concerns, always returning the "Law of Nations", Emerich De Vattel's encyclopedic record of the laws civilized nations had developed over two thousand years of which the founders were clearly aware of in their debates:<br /><br />"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights."<br /><br />E. De Vattel 1758 Sec 212 Ch19<br /><br />Vattel's definition has been accepted since the days the United States was still a motley collection of British Colonies. It has been accepted in no less that 3 Supreme Court Cases, has been accepted in testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives. It is by no means an original source; only recently dug out of dusty tomes in 2008. Indeed, this concept is enshrined in every Nation the world over. Every nation not only accepts, but has enshrined this concept: a person born to two parents who were citizens of that nation and born on its soil was a natural born citizen of that nation.<br /><br />If you investigate the Minor vs Happersett case--- you find even more revealing that someone in Baracks cabinet erased that data from that case and was the owner of the database that the attorneys used... look it up Some<br />have titled it JustiaGate because it involves Justia.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511703539900150626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-9046405948361437022012-03-22T07:16:22.311-07:002012-03-22T07:16:22.311-07:00I read that the microfiche was missing over 2 year...I read that the microfiche was missing over 2 years ago? Just like the records of airline dates after Obama was born arriving in the US are missing?? Makes you doubt Obama's eligibility for POTUS when all his college records, etc. are hidden from public viewing for vetting the president, leader of the U.S. and the free world???<br /><br />It is telling that Obama is speeding up his agenda with his most recent Executive Order that limits our free speech rights of assembly for both those on the right or left. Both left and right should unite and throw out Obama...his governing has been spending us into bankruptcy. We are getting closer to a $16Trillion unsustainable deficit. Harry Reid will not allow a budget to go to the floor to be voted on. How could any American support this action by the leader of the Senate???MyCountry2https://www.blogger.com/profile/18057271841971792395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-42358859876505506412012-03-19T16:13:38.728-07:002012-03-19T16:13:38.728-07:00Your statement is false. Everyone with any profess...Your statement is false. Everyone with any professional family history/genealogical research background knows that a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth are two very different documents. Very different requirements for reporting, signatures, sources, and information. This holds true for Hawaii and all U.S. states. Newspaper announcements and requirements by the Dept. of Health and reporting in states vary but often contain some incorrect information. In over 40 years of involvement in research and 10 years full-time I have seen thousands of birth certificates in the United States but certificates of live birth are much more rare.JamesJames Clemanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680294955971627150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-37260790648531384112012-03-02T11:19:17.279-08:002012-03-02T11:19:17.279-08:00Sorry, that is BS. He needs to show people who wer...Sorry, that is BS. He needs to show people who were born outside of Hawaii being a part of the record of Hawaiian births. If he can't do that he has no case and the newspaper articles stand.Gary Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15499434824034613894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-44028995787481467442012-01-03T12:00:03.527-08:002012-01-03T12:00:03.527-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-79513436837948449552011-07-19T22:13:49.917-07:002011-07-19T22:13:49.917-07:00Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog a...Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I have really enyed reading your blog posts. Any way I'll be subscribing to your feed and I hope you post again soon<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">birth announcements</a>Devid Pulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14988660759331337859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-50681703917863710492011-05-23T11:21:52.474-07:002011-05-23T11:21:52.474-07:00Face it, you continue to lie about Obama's bir...Face it, you continue to lie about Obama's birth certificate being forged. You ignore the fact that three Republican officials have confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate. You ignore the notices in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 (which were not ads but were notices sent by the government).<br /><br />You have no credibility whatsoever. In fact, you are a good example of why Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck all all birthers crazy.<br /><br />Obama has shown official evidence of his birth in Hawaii, and it has been confirmed by three Republican officials and by the notices in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 and the witness who wrote home about Obama's birth, and the Kenyan grandmother who said that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter from Hawaii.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-66106309985662483702011-05-23T11:11:34.622-07:002011-05-23T11:11:34.622-07:00Ann,
You provide the same worn out response that ...Ann,<br /><br />You provide the same worn out response that I have seen on various Obot sites. Please spare me and do not waste my time any further. <br /><br />Face it, you cannot produce the evidence of Obama being born in Hawaii. <br /><br />All your globe-trotting analysis also is of no moment when the simple point is: Let's see the evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-91037438236789966732011-05-23T10:51:04.076-07:002011-05-23T10:51:04.076-07:00Re: "The burden of proof is on Obama to prove...Re: "The burden of proof is on Obama to prove where he was born. The American people do not have the burden of proof to go around the globe looking for his place of birth. It is that simple. "<br /><br />Answer: Obama has provided the official and long-form birth certificates of Hawaii. That IS proof. And the US Congress has confirmed Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY. That means that there was no doubt by a single one of 535 members of Congress that Obama was born outside of the USA or that the citizenship of Obama's father has any effect on his natural born citizen status.<br /><br />Re Medical evidence. Actually, no. The US State Department does not accept a hospital birth certificate as proof of birth in the USA. It requires an official birth certificate, a government birth certificate. In Hawaii, it accepts the Certification of Live Birth. Thousands of people use it every year to get their US passports.<br /><br />Since Obama has provided the official birth certificate and the long-form birth certificate, and THREE Republican officials have confirmed the facts on it, it is up to the birthers to prove that it is all a lie. Obama has provided more evidence of his birth in the USA than any other president, and there is absolutely no evidence of him being born outside of the USA.<br /><br />Even the claim that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya is a lie. She never said any such thing. She said repeatedly in the taped interview repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter from Hawaii. A letter from Hawaii.<br /><br />There is also a witness, who recalled being told of Obamas' birth in Kapiolani Hospital in 1961 and writing home about it.<br /><br />Obama has provided sufficient evidence. With the confirmations of the Republican officials, it is overwhelming. Obama does not have to provide any more evidence. So, it is up to you to convince us HOW Obama could possibly be born outside of the USA.<br /><br />Obama’s parents would have had to have:<br /><br />(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya);<br /><br />(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed;<br /><br />(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);<br /><br />(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;<br /><br />(5) got three Republican officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii.<br /><br />ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-24899108059661579522011-05-23T09:36:33.619-07:002011-05-23T09:36:33.619-07:00Ann,
The burden of proof is on Obama to prove wh...Ann, <br /><br />The burden of proof is on Obama to prove where he was born. The American people do not have the burden of proof to go around the globe looking for his place of birth. It is that simple. <br /><br />He has put forth a document on the internet which he alleges is his long-form Certificate of Live Birth. There is now enough evidence showing that it is a forgery. Hence, he must show some other evidence. <br /><br />Our Federal agencies accept medical evidence as evidence of place of birth and identity. Hence, Obama needs to produce that medical evidence from Kapi'olani Hospital, the hospital in which he says he was born and which is stated as his birth place on his alleged long-form birth certificate. <br /><br />1961 is not that far back in time. Surely, the hospital has evidence of Stanley Ann Dunham and baby Barack being there, if they were there. Also, Stanley Ann Dunham would have had pre-natal and post-natal medical care for herself and baby Barack. Where is that medical evidence? <br /><br />Please, no more excuses.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-61761102878480556912011-05-23T07:26:05.281-07:002011-05-23T07:26:05.281-07:00The official birth certificate of Hawaii is issued...The official birth certificate of Hawaii is issued by the STATE of Hawaii. Hospital birth records are not official, could easily be forged and are not accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department. There is also federal law forbidding hospitals from releasing those records. AND, we do not even know that Kapiolani Hospital still has the birth records of 1961. It may have microfilmed them, or it may not have.<br /><br />In any case, the absence of a document from Kapiolani Hospital would not prove that Obama was born outside of the USA. For Obama to have been born outside of the USA ALL of the following would have had to have taken place:<br /><br />Obama’s parents would have had to have:<br /><br />(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya);<br /><br />(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed;<br /><br />(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);<br /><br />(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;<br /><br />(5) got three Republican officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii.<br /><br />ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA. <br /><br />Surely you can answer all five of those points.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-54187086074034910572011-05-22T09:44:38.187-07:002011-05-22T09:44:38.187-07:00Ann,
Why don't we just cut to the chase. Yo...Ann, <br /><br />Why don't we just cut to the chase. You profess to know so much about Obama. Let's see a document from Kapi'olani Hospital (not the Hawaii Health Department) that confirms that Obama was born there. Simple, right? No excuses, please?Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-72939219119279202062011-05-22T09:08:24.695-07:002011-05-22T09:08:24.695-07:00Re: "Dunham did it not for political reasons,...Re: "Dunham did it not for political reasons, but for a whole host of other reasons. Health care, for instance. Fill in the blanks."<br /><br />Answer: You would get all the advantages of citizenship, even for a child born outside of the USA, by simply naturalizing the child and making him a US citizen. IF Obama had been born in Kenya or in some other country than the USA, Dunham could have him naturalized, and not run the risk of trying to get him past US immigration without a US visa or him being entered on a US passport. And not have to run the risk of lying about the place of birth to the officials in Hawaii.<br /><br />Yet, the birther notion that Obama was born outside of Hawaii requires not merely that Dunham ran the risk of lying for little apparent benefit and despite the risk, but that she got away with the lie.<br /><br />Obama’s parents would have had to have:<br /><br />(1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya);<br /><br />(2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother’s US passport or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed;<br /><br />(3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one);<br /><br />(4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital;<br /><br />(5) got three Republican officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama’s files verified that he was born in Hawaii.<br /><br />ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-25529480338344157832011-05-22T08:31:45.493-07:002011-05-22T08:31:45.493-07:00Re: "What color is an African? What color is ...Re: "What color is an African? What color is a Boer?'<br /><br />Since people were allowed to describe their race anyway that they wanted to, as the Republican officials in Hawaii have said, a person who was white could declare himself as Black or Negro or African. And a person who was black could declare himself as white.<br /><br />That was the law IN HAWAII. So, was it normal for African exchange students to describe themselves and "African"? Answer: YES.<br /><br />As for the things that you claim were impeachable offenses. It is your right to petition Congress to impeach Obama, and they will laugh at you.<br /><br />Re college records "sealed." Answer: No. They are simply private. Obama did not have them "sealed." They are just as private as anyone else's college records. However, IF the Republican candidate for president shows her or his college records, Obam ais likely to do so too.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-43127809164513038902011-05-21T19:02:32.668-07:002011-05-21T19:02:32.668-07:00How do you answer the charge that Obama Soetoro is...How do you answer the charge that Obama Soetoro is guilty of at least two impeachable offenses? One is putting out assassination orders on anyone he pleases.<br /><br />How's you likey them apples? Annie?<br /><br />$27+++ trillion pledged to private bankers, that number is almost 2 years old. Bloomberg/Reuters.<br /><br />Can't deny these charges. What say you? Is this poser a god to you? He can do no wrong?<br /><br />One day, no boots on the ground in Libya, the very next day, troops in Libya, do you think this guy is blackmail-able?<br /><br />Let's see, Larry Sinclair, Rezko, Don Young murder.<br /><br />Hmmm, records from college sealed.<br /><br />Finger on the nuclear button, but NOOOO.... we can't tread on the sensitive privacy issues... don't want to offend him, oh no!Free Humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783609876566643992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-50028625330987680212011-05-21T18:57:39.081-07:002011-05-21T18:57:39.081-07:00Dunham did it not for political reasons, but for a...Dunham did it not for political reasons, but for a whole host of other reasons. Health care, for instance. Fill in the blanks. Jesus you are stupid, Ann.Free Humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783609876566643992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-79016562503128246642011-05-21T18:56:29.813-07:002011-05-21T18:56:29.813-07:00What color is an African?
What color is a Boer?
...What color is an African?<br /><br />What color is a Boer?<br /><br />What color is an Afrikaner?<br /><br />What color is a Dravidian in Africa?<br /><br />What color is Japanese or Chinese person from African?<br /><br />Substitute the word race or ethnicity for color.<br /><br />Get the point?<br /><br />Okay, still clued out? What about American, or Antarctican?<br /><br />Now do you get it? <br /><br />Do you see you're not making any sense, Ann?<br /><br />Earth to Ann, get a clue.Free Humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783609876566643992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-54131251685756110982011-05-21T18:53:22.282-07:002011-05-21T18:53:22.282-07:00Ann, so how many celestials were there in Hawaii? ...Ann, so how many celestials were there in Hawaii? How many Vulcans? What about other one-off originals where people just made up names of races, since you 'could use any word you wanted to'?Free Humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783609876566643992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-78548542414739330602011-05-21T18:52:04.863-07:002011-05-21T18:52:04.863-07:00Ann, get your head out of your ass.Ann, get your head out of your ass.Free Humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783609876566643992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7623181557777206690.post-38314736993188543822011-05-21T13:15:01.014-07:002011-05-21T13:15:01.014-07:00Re: "The hospital was not named as such until...Re: "The hospital was not named as such until 1978..."<br /><br />Who told you that? It is WRONG.<br /><br />The name of the hospital in Obama's long-form birth certificate is EXACTLY the same as on the birth certificates of the Nordyke twins on WND's site. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17916722256588549762noreply@blogger.com